ANA CLAUDIA MICHELS

Ex Model and New Doctor.

THE INSPIRATION TALK

HI ANA! SO FIRST THINGS FIRST… TELL ME : AS A CHILD, WHAT WERE YOU DREAMING OF BECOMING ?
My dream was always to be a doctor. Ever since I was born, I felt attracted to it. I was very curious about diseases, I always wanted to see people’s wounds. I was crazy about stitches. This was in me.

WERE YOU STITCHING YOUR FRIENDS? DO YOU HAVE BROTHERS AND SISTERS?
Yes, I have a brother and a sister but no I never stitched any of them (laughs). I would have done it if I could!

WHERE WERE YOU BORN AND RAISED?
I was born in a city called Joinville, in the south of Brazil. The culture is mostly German and Italian. That’s why in the south of Brazil everybody is blond like me.

SO TELL ME, YOU HAD THIS DREAM OF BECOMING A DOCTOR AND THEN YOU WERE SCOUTED IN THE STREET TO BECOME A MODEL. IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED?
Something like that. A long time ago in Brazil we used to have this course to learn good manners, how to walk with high heels…

MY MOM TOOK A SIMILAR COURSE AT SCHOOL IN SWITZERLAND! SHE WAS ALWAYS TELLING ME ABOUT IT AND HOW SHE LEARNED TO COOK AND TO SEW, WHEN I DON’T KNOW ABOUT ANY OF THOSE THINGS…
I wish they had that class! There, it was only about high heels and stuff like that. It was a mannequin class and was supposed to teach you good posture. A friend wanted to do it and she called me because she didn’t want to go alone. So I went. There, I just remember meeting this man who really wanted us to walk like supermodels from the 90’s when I didn’t even know what that was !

HOW OLD WERE YOU?
I was fourteen and I had a lot of fun. I was super skinny, way too skinny for the beauty standards of the time. I was weird looking but I really enjoyed the high heels. The guy saw me walking with those shoes and he thought : « ok, I have good potential here ».

AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED?
And then at the end of the course he needed two girls to do this fashion show in a city close by. He picked me and another girl and this is were I was scouted. He asked me to come to São Paulo to meet with a model agency. It was a week before the first ever fashion week of Brazil. They were starting to change the requisite they had for the girls from very beautiful to more skinny looking. I really fitted in that trend. So believe it or not, it happened just because I was weird and fourteen and very skinny. I worked very well this first season and I never stopped.

SO YOU MOVED TO SÃO PAULO AT THE AGE OF FOURTEEN?
The first week I was with my mom. She didn’t like São Paulo. It’s very different from Joinville, the way the city moves, the way the people are and the way the city looks. Both of us thought: « this is not for us ». We took a mutual decision to go back. I really wanted to be a doctor, this was ridiculous. But the agency kept calling saying I was losing opportunities. I come from a low middle class family, we used to struggle for everything. They told my parents I could win good money, I would have the opportunity to travel, to meet a lot of people… Things they would never be able to offer me. The agency was very harsh with my parents and they felt super guilty and soon told me : « Ana think about this, maybe you should try ». So I went back and forth for a while. I would go for a month and come back. I started very soon going abroad because this was the perk they had sold to us; traveling and learning a new language. I was still fourteen when I went to New York for the first time for two months.

ALONE?
No with my mother. I always traveled with my mother until sixteen. My parents would not let me travel on my own so young. We didn’t even know this world. We thought they were beauty pageants. We were completely lost. So my mother came with me but she was making me even more worried.

HAHAHA!
I was worried about her, I was worried she would get lost in that huge city.

FROM JOINVILLE TO NEW YORK AT FOURTEEN… IT MUST HAVE BEEN A SHOCK!
A total shock. It was terrible, I think I’m still traumatized. It was not nice.

SO YOU STARTED WORKING FOR INTERNATIONAL BRANDS?
The first time I was in New York, I only did pictures for my book and a few tests. I was exhausted but the results were very good. When I came back to Brazil my book looked amazing. Back here, I was already known by clients but with those new pictures they loved me even better. I would do all the shows of the fashion week and they would make plans for new trips like Milan or Paris and yet at this point I had no money perspective.

NO?
No! Because every time I traveled I didn’t work very well. I think maybe I was so unhappy that it showed on my face, and in my body language and never really worked out.

BUT THEY KEPT ON SENDING YOU ANYWAY?
Yes.

YOU WERE SAYING THAT YOU DIDN’T WANT TO LOSE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EARN GOOD MONEY BUT IF YOU DIDN’T GET THAT MONEY RIGHT AWAY… I MEAN A TEENAGER IS VERY IMPATIENT, YOU WERE VERY YOUNG, IF YOU DIDN’T FEEL HAPPY TRAVELING AND BEING WHERE YOU WERE SENT TO, HOW DID YOU MANAGE TO MOTIVATE YOURSELF?
The agencies were very persuasive!

WHEN DID IT START TO BE SOMETHING YOU FELT GOOD ABOUT?
When I started traveling without my mom. When I was sixteen, I told my mother: « this is not working, you’re too much work. If I do this, I have to do it on my own». She agreed and I started to make friends in the business. I started to feel more like an adult and this is when it started working out.

YOU SEEM TO HAVE A VERY CLOSE GROUP OF FRIENDS THAT STARTED AT THE SAME TIME AS YOU, LIKE CAROL RIBEIRO, LU CURTIS… DID YOU MEET THESE GIRLS AROUND THAT TIME ?
Yes, in New York. We are best friends from that time until today. I think because they were lost as well. But we would always comfort each other. I think this is why we are still so close.

NOW IT IS KIND OF A TREND TO FEEL SUPPORTIVE BETWEEN GIRLS BUT AT THAT TIME PEOPLE WOULD ADVISE YOU TO FEEL COMPETITIVE WITH EACH OTHER!
In our group, we were never competitive with each other. As a matter of fact, our group used to be a lot bigger…

YOU LOST SOME ON THE WAY?
Yes, the competitive ones (laughs). We are still friends with some of them but not so close.

SO HOW LONG DID YOU WORK LIKE THAT?
When I was seventeen or eighteen, there was this big open casting for the photographer Steven Meisel in New York who I really admired, I still do. Anyway, he would never have open castings but this day he did. My agency said: « are you sure you want to go? ». I was super sure! For me he was the best. And at least I would see him. The casting was huge, it was in Pier 59, people would queue all the way until the Hudson River. Kilometers of line for this open casting… and I got the job!

HE ONLY NEEDED ONE GIRL?
No, they needed three girls. They actually booked thirty girls and on the day of the shoot they reviewed us one by one like « thank you, you’re done for the day now ». At that time if you managed a job with him, your career was launched and would never stop working. So it was a nightmare because we all thought « oh my god, this is it, I got cast for Steven Meisel! » when in fact it was still not a sure thing until only 3 of us made it to the final stage.

AND SO YOU GOT IT…
I got it and right after that I was called for an editorial in Vogue Italia. And then just like that, I was doing everything. I was booked everywhere.

ALSO I FEEL THAT ITALIAN VOGUE IS ONE OF THE VERY FEW EDITIONS THAT REALLY PUTS THE IMAGE AND THE CREATIVE ABOVE EVERYTHING ELSE. IT MUST BE THE DREAM OF ANY MODEL TO BE FEATURED IN IT.
I think it’s the dream of anybody that works with fashion. By the time the magazine was out I was nineteen. It was the January 2000 issue. After that, I settled my base in New York. I lived there from 1999 until 2005. I would go to Paris, stay two or three months and then I would be back to NY.

AT THE HEIGHT OF YOUR MODELING CAREER, WERE YOU STILL THINKING ABOUT YOUR DREAM OF BECOMING A DOCTOR OR WERE YOU FINALLY ACCEPTING THAT THE UNIVERSE HAD CHOSEN A DIFFERENT PATH FOR YOU?
I felt like that, the universe had chosen a different path for me but I was always thinking that I had to do something afterwards. I never saw myself making this for the rest of my life. And nobody works as a model until very old. I mean, nowadays it changed a little bit but I personally couldn’t see myself doing this forever. 

SO WHEN WAS THE LIGHT BULB MOMENT WHEN SUDDENLY YOU DECIDED TO FACE YOUR DREAM TAKING THE DECISION ?
When I was 29, during a therapy session, my therapist who was a psychiatrist turned to me and asked: « what are you going to do about your dream? ». I said: « it’s too late. I’m almost thirty years old, I can’t go back to school ». He answered : « maybe you should take the first step and see how it feels and then you’ll know ». I hadn’t studied for 17 years! I didn’t even finish high school because of my job. But I registered myself in preparatory class in São Paulo, always thinking that if it would get too crazy I could always stop. Only the truth is I enjoyed it more everyday!

WERE YOU STILL MODELING BACK THEN?
I kept it on the side but I wouldn’t accept jobs abroad anymore. I only worked in Brazil.

WHILE YOU WERE MODELING, DID YOU FEEL SOMETIMES LIKE A FRAUD?
All the time… Until today. When people say: « oh you’re a model » I always respond: « yes, can you believe that!?».

THIS IS CRAZY, YOU ARE NOT JUST A MODEL, YOU ARE ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL ONES IN YOUR COUNTRY.
In my time I did well, yes.

HELLO IMPOSTER SYNDROME! MOSTLY WOMEN, OBVIOUSLY, SUFFER FROM THAT FEELING. IT’S AN INTERESTING TOPIC. I MEAN YOU WERE EARNING A LOT OF MONEY, YOU WERE HELPING YOUR FAMILY OUT, YOU WERE TRAVELING THE WORLD, YOU WERE EXCELLING AT IT!
I think I felt as an imposture because I honestly don’t think I was that great at it. Being a model isn’t just looking good and knowing how to pose for pictures. I think you have to own that. You have to be super proud of it. It is an amazing job and it’s definitely not for weak people. All the girls that made a name for themselves in this business always had something really strong about them. I don’t think I owned it with all my heart. This is therapy now. I kept on trying to stay on top and it was hard for me because I wasn’t enjoying the work. Castings for me were the worst, I wanted to kill myself, I hated it so bad. I have some friends over 40 that are still working and they really enjoy the process. They get the jobs. They are super happy about it. I never enjoyed the process. I only wanted to do the nice things and that’s it. And at some point I think it showed in my work. Sometimes I just felt like I was a lazy person but as soon as I got into med school, I realized I wasn’t lazy. I like to work. If I have to spend the night at the hospital to take care of sick people I’m super happy about it. I realized I wasn’t lazy, I just wasn’t doing what I loved.

YOU PURSUED YOUR FIRST CAREER AND IT WENT WELL. IT’S NOT SOMETHING YOU SHOULD FEEL GUILTY ABOUT. IT WAS THE RIGHT TIME AND THE RIGHT PLACE. OBVIOUSLY YOU HAD TALENT AS WELL. IT’S AMAZING THAT YOU GOT TO EXPERIENCE ALL THIS AND MADE THE CALL TO QUIT. I FEEL THAT BRAZIL IN SOME WAY HAS AN OPEN MIND ABOUT THAT KIND OF PATHS. FOR EXAMPLE, IN FRANCE, YOU CHOOSE YOUR EDUCATIONAL FIELD VERY YOUNG, YOU STUDY IT, WITH THE GOAL OF MAKING A LIVING OUT OF IT. IF SUDDENLY YOU DECIDE YOU WANT TO CHANGE AREAS, PEOPLE WILL CALL YOU CRAZY.
We have the same way of thinking. In traditional families here, it’s like that.

WHEN I MOVED TO BRAZIL 5 YEARS AGO, I FELT MORE PEOPLE WERE EXPERIENCING RADICAL CHANGES. LIKE GOING FROM WORKING IN A CORPORATE COMPANY TO BEING A CHEF FOR EXAMPLE, WITH VERY SUPPORTIVE REACTIONS TO IT. I FEEL IT’S CHANGING NOW, GLOBALLY, AND THIS IS SOMETHING AMAZING.
Making someone choose their field at the age of 18, and having to stick to their choices their whole life… It’s cruelty. At this age you don’t know anything.

ALSO SOMETHING I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT… YOU CHOSE TO EMBRACE YOUR DREAM AND AT THAT TIME YOU ALSO WANTED TO START A FAMILY. I KNOW YOUR HUSBAND, HE SEEMS LIKE SOMEONE VERY OPEN MINDED BUT DIDN’T YOU FEEL LIKE THERE WAS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO SACRIFICE ?
I entered a big crisis when I got pregnant. I realized I had to stop pursuing my dream job (again!) for a year and I didn’t want to because I would lose my classmates. They would go on and I would stay on my own. Also it would be very hard to go back to school while leaving my baby at home. I realized how unfair it is for women. I think I still haven’t totally resolved this crisis. My husband is a very supportive guy, he’s amazing but he never had to change anything in his life when we became parents.

YOU’RE A GREAT EXAMPLE, IT’S A GREAT STORY! OBVIOUSLY NOWADAYS, WOMEN FEEL PRESSURED TO HAVE A CAREER, TO BE INDEPENDENT, TO BE THE BEST MOM, TO BE A GOOD WIFE, TO BE GOOD LOOKING… IT’S SURREAL! MEN DON’T GET IT. HOW DID YOU MANAGE TO CONTINUE AND NOT GIVE UP ?
Because there were no other options. I really wanted to be a mother and I really wanted to be a doctor. The hardest thing was to go to school while I was breastfeeding a baby at home. It lasted for 5 months. On top of it, at that time, I had just started the night shifts at the hospital. When I was leaving, my baby was sleeping and when I would come back she would be sleeping again. I cried so much I thought I was going to die. Once I spoke to my husband and I told him: « I think I can’t do this, it’s too much. I’m missing out on the childhood of my daughter ». He calmed me down and said: «  it’s only for a short period of time, you are going to be fine. Remember you are doing this because you want to do it and not because you have to ». He was right. Some internships were lighters than others and I managed to spend more time with my family. I got through it.

IT MUST BE THE HARDEST THING. IT IS SUPER UNDERRATED.
Super underrated! And I’m super privileged, I can hire the best people to take care of my children at home. People that I trust.

ALSO I THINK WOMEN ARE SUPER ASHAMED TO SHOW THE DEPTH OF THE CRISIS THAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH, THEY TEMPT TO HIDE IT.
For me, it was devastating. It was real pain. No one told me it would be that hard.

TELL ME MORE ABOUT YOUR LIFE NOW. ARE YOU DONE WITH THE STUDIES?
I am graduating at the end of the year. (Editor’s note : The interview was done at the end of 2019).

YOU WILL HAVE DONE 4 YEARS?
6 years but I have done it in 7 because I had two babies.

SO YOU FINALLY FOUND YOUR TRUE PASSION. I SEE YOUR FACE ILLUMINATING WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT IT. I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF AMAZING WOMEN WORKING IN THAT FIELD BUT I FEEL THE HOSPITAL IS QUITE A MASCULINE WORLD. I WANTED TO KNOW HOW IT FELT AS A MODEL TO ENTER THIS WORLD? PEOPLE PROBABLY RECOGNIZED YOU AT SOME POINT. HOW WERE YOU WELCOMED?
I always have to convince everyone for a while before they can trust me. At the beginning I’m always like a clown. Every time I’m with a new medical team, and it happens a lot since we shift a lot too, the first thing they say is always : « oh you’re the model! ». They never expect anything from me. But I really don’t care about that. I know I’m good at it.

YOU DON’T LOOK LIKE SOMEONE WHO CARES, INDEED.
I couldn’t care less about what people think. It doesn’t affect me at all. My classmates told me that at the beginning they all thought that I had bought my school admission. It’s illegal to do that but we know it happens. One day in class, I had a 6.5 grade at a test which was not good but ok comparing to the rest of the class. The teacher was very surprised and said in front of everyone : « oh my god, you study ».

WHAT DID YOU ANSWER?
I just laughed.

WAS SHE A WOMAN?
Yes, unfortunately we are the worst.

IT’S HORRIBLE!
At the hospital it is like that as well. Doctors are way more competitive than models. The hierarchy is very strong, you don’t talk to your superior without putting your head down. It’s cultural. With me they don’t know what to do because usually I’m older than my superiors and I’m the famous one. They get uncomfortable. I wish they would just consider me equal and tell me to go clean the floor like the others but they don’t.

DO THE OTHER ONES FEEL JEALOUS ABOUT THIS SITUATION?
Sometimes they do. I had to change classes twice and I had problems in all of them even if I never acted on my privileges.

WAS THERE SOMEONE IN PARTICULAR DURING THAT PROCESS THAT YOU COULD TURN TO, APART FROM YOUR THERAPIST, A MENTOR MAYBE? SOMEONE THAT UNDERSTOOD YOU?
No, I wish I had. My classmates were way younger than me but they understood what I was going through. They heard so much about my life. I turned to them for support. After I had the baby, when I stopped breastfeeding, the first thing I really wanted to do was to drink with my classmates (laughs).

HAHA. « STUDENT LIFE ». THAT’S SWEET!
(laughs).

YOU CONTINUE TO HAVE SPECIAL PROJECTS SOMETIMES AS A MODEL AND AS A PUBLIC FACE. I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME WE HANGED OUT, YOU WERE EXPECTED TO POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND YOU WERE REALLY NOT INTO IT. BUT WHEN YOU ARE A PUBLIC FACE, IT HELPS YOU MANAGE YOUR IMAGE. I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THAT KIND OF CONTRADICTORY FEELINGS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THIS SUBJECT.
I thought a lot about it. When we met I think I had hired someone to take care of this. It lasted one month but I could’t (laughs). I thought I was going to be myself and post whatever I like. I’m almost 40 years old, I changed my entire life to be happy, I’m not going to continue something just to fit in.

AMEN! YOU HAVE AN AMAZING DAUGHTER WHO IS FULL OF LIFE, VERY FEMININE. SHE LOVES TO DANCE, SHE LOVES MAKE UP AND SHE IS SUPER COMFORTABLE WITH EVERYONE. I SAW THAT YOU WERE KIND OF PISSED THAT SHE MIGHT WANT TO PURSUE THAT KIND OF CAREER EVEN TOUGH YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE AND A LEGITIMACY IN THE MODELING WORLD.
I don’t know if I want that for her. If it was my decision I would definitely take that away from her.

BUT WHY? IT’S ALSO WHAT BROUGHT YOU WHERE YOU ARE NOW. IT GAVE YOU ACCESS TO A LOT OF STUFF. 
I think for me it was interesting because I came from a poor family. I had a sense of reality. On the other hand, my daughter lives in a bubble. Her father is rich, I earn my own money, she studies in a good school. If she starts being a model, she is going to loose reality. Maybe I’m sub-judging her. Maybe she is going to find out her own way how to put her feet on the ground. More and more I realize how little influence, us parents, we have on our children. Specially with my daughter, she has her own personality. I also have a son. He’s completely different. He’s more quiet and I feel the influence I have on him.

DO YOU FEEL YOUR DAUGHTER HAS THE SAME RELATIONSHIP WITH HER DAD? DOES HE HAVE MORE INFLUENCE THAN YOU DO?
No, I have more than him and still it’s nothing. She has a very high self esteem, she’s smart. I wish I was more like her but it’s hard.

HOW DO YOU WANT TO RAISE HER? HOW DO YOU THINK YOU WILL TEACH HER THESE REALITIES?
I’ll do everything I can. It is one of my biggest fear to think that maybe she will not understand. She is in a very good school, where they really worry about what kind of human being the kids are going to be instead of focusing too much on their academic performances. But on the other side, unfortunately in that school there is not one black kid. I’m ashamed of that. I’m raising a human being completely separated from reality and I’m not happy about that. I don’t know yet what to do about it but it’s bothering me, a lot.

I FEEL BRAZIL IS A COUNTRY WERE PEOPLE STILL HAVE A STRONG HERITAGE OF CLASSES. WHEN YOU HAVE A NANNY, MOST OF THE TIME SHE HAS TO WEAR WHITE CLOTHES. THERE IS A SENSE OF HIERARCHY, IT IS VERY VERTICAL. EVEN EMPLOYEES DON’T FEEL AT EASE NOT FOLLOWING THOSE « RULES ».
No they don’t, it’s cultural. My kid’s nanny calls me « Dona Ana » (edito’s note: « M’am Ana »). I asked her to call me just Ana but she doesn’t feel comfortable about it.

THIS CULTURAL HERITAGE IS VERY ALIVE BUT ON THE OTHER HAND I ALSO SEE SUPER POSITIVE THINGS LIKE THE FACT THAT YOUNG PEOPLE CAN GET A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITIES IN THE CORPORATE WORLD IF THEY WANT TO AND ARE TALENTED. THERE AREN’T ANY SOCIAL CONVENTION THAT YOU SHOULD BE A CERTAIN AGE TO ASSUME A HIGH POSITION IN A FIRM. WHEREAS MANY COUNTRIES FROM EUROPE FOR EXAMPLE TEND TO THINK OTHERWISE. BRAZIL IS ADVANCED IN MANY WAYS BUT STILL REMAINS LATE ON SOCIAL MATTERS. IT’S VERY SAD.
Our president right now is actually walking the other way from progress. Maybe he is going to make people so angry that the real change will happen after him.

SOMETIMES IT WORKS LIKE THAT : YOU HAVE TO HIT ROCK BOTTOM TO START SOMETHING NEW. DO YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT APPROACH BETWEEN RAISING YOUR DAUGHTER AND RAISING YOUR SON?
I don’t think so. My mother was a feminist even if she doesn’t know the word. She raised my brother, my sister and I exactly the same. She was always telling us : « you have to earn your own money, you cannot depend on anybody ». Everybody was equal at my house so I have that in me and I’m raising my own children that way. Her telling us to be independent is just one of the aspect of her feminism. She runs the house, my father has no word in it.

AND SO IN THE FAMILY YOU CREATED WITH YOU HUSBAND, HOW IS IT? WHAT ARE YOUR SMALL DAILY BATTLES THAT YOU WON’T LET GO OF?
I feel children depend a little bit more on their mother than on their father. Whenever I have to be away for work, I want to make sure they spend more time with their father than with the nanny. When they are with their father I feel less guilty than when they are with the nanny. We had a few fights about that. He comes from a very traditional family where kids stayed a lot with the nanny and he doesn’t see the harm. Don’t get me wrong, he is an amazing father. When we have those fights he reminds me everything he does. I tell him : « I’m aware, that is why I married you. But you can do more ».

DON’T YOU FEEL THAT HAVING A DAUGHTER, ESPECIALLY A VERY OPINIONATED ONE, WILL HELP HIM UNDERSTAND THOSE ISSUES BETTER?
I do. She just turned three and she’s already changing him.

LIVING YOUR LIFE THE WAY YOU ARE AND TAKING ALL THOSE BOLD DECISIONS, WHAT IS THE MESSAGE YOU WANT TO PASS ON? AND HOW DO YOU INTEND TO PASS IT ON?
It’s a hard question. I think everyone has his own path and has to learn their own lessons, whatever they have to learn. I had an amazing life until now. I can draw a lot of conclusions for myself but I can’t teach someone else what I learned to make them change their lives. I would just become an annoying person. I think maybe this is what I want to say : « stop trying to teach everybody what you learned. They’ll learn by themselves. Don’t be annoying ».

CHANGING SUBJECTS… WHAT SONG WILL ALWAYS MAKE YOU WANT TO DANCE?
It’s cheesy, “Don’t stop believing” from Journey. I love it!

WHAT IS ONE COOL THING YOU LEARNED IN THE LAST FEW DAYS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE?
I saw a patient with measles. It’s not very cool but when I started med school they told us that we would never see someone with measles anymore because of the vaccination. But I saw someone with measles!

I DONT KNOW IF THIS IS THE WORST OR THE COOLEST ANSWER EVER TO THAT QUESTION (LAUGHS)!  WHERE DO YOU SEE YOURSELF IN 10 YEARS ?
I think I really found myself. For now, I have to do two more years of medical clinic. So I’m going to do that and then I’m going to choose my specialty. On the long term I think I want to have my own clinic. I still have a lot of studying to do to get there…

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT, I’M SURE YOU’LL GET THERE SOON!
Merci!

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PHOTOGRAPHER: GUILHERME NABHAN
BEAUTY: GUI CASAGRANDE
STYLING: IZADORA JACOB
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